La Vita in Diretta [Life Direct] (Rai 1) 23/2/2012 Marco Liorni
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an issue that can sometimes seem far away
but if we enter into it is distressing
Imagine a little to stay in prison for innocent
not for a few days short, but for a very long period
for months, perhaps for years
Imagine falling asleep every night in jail
being around people who probably do not frequentereste never out
out having a life you have left
and having the spectrum of a long sentence
and only hope that sooner or later to notice that you are really innocent
has tremendous experience that can last very long
as in the case of Parlanti
Welcome to the studio
thanks for accepting our invitation
is the first interview is to allow us
after seven and a half years in prison in the country's prisons of the united states of america
California
California in particular
soon we will enter in your story because there are those who instead of seven and a half years in prison an innocent man has spent twenty-two
a nightmare for Giuseppe
you read the newspapers in recent days
after twenty two years finally it was discovered that he was innocent
now asking fifty million euros compensation
I think so, and I dare say that if all the merits
because short twenty-two years with a child out
but look at the first story tells the Mariagrazia Sanrocco there
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Parlanti
Parlanti arrived a week ago I more or less from the united states of america?
on 15
February 15
think it came with handcuffs sull'areoplano
with handcuffs and chains on their feet
sull'areoplane only they have removed the chains
where you were in flight when they removed the chains?
was the best moment of the return trip
We had just left the coast of the united states
about an hour after leaving Washington
and the immigration officer took away the chains
I was finally free
and you feel free?
This is the question that I will soon
summarize the history of your first sentence to nine years in prison
summarize the history of your first sentence to nine years in prison
summarize the history of your first sentence to nine years in prison
summarize the history of your first sentence to nine years in prison
in a U.S. prison among other conditions in which we now say an innocent man
also joined the Foreign Ministry even though it appears when you officially guilty
But that calls for the reopening of the process
The foreign ministry also moved
allay all of this to no one that is also the story of Carlo Parlanti
which are summarized in this service Raffaella Grey
the American Dream for Parlanti
IT manager of Montecatini
degree in physics and brilliant career women
was broken in July 2004 when he entered into the mechanisms of justice of the California
on charges of having raped and kidnapped in Malibu home former partner Rebecca White
punishment without crime
over time has always shouted his innocence man
who has served in prison to Avenal seven years and seven months of the nine inflicted
and one in Germany where he was arrested eight years ago
a woman's revenge for leaving her in July 2002 seconds Parlanti
heard on the phone last October when he was still in jail
I never touched this woman
this woman was an acquaintance of mine that even I was helping
him against the word of hers
who already had denounced her husband and his employer for the same offenses
but was not considered credible for mental health problems
Talking while accusing obtained as happens even in cases of child abuse in america
favorable conditions and economic aid apartment
made of a hard battle reports evidence certified
White told of the alleged kicks and punches suffered
However, submitting a few photos a week later and with the walls of the house a different color
Talking nevertheless remained locked up in prison under the limits of livability
eight days ago for the physical hours quarantottenne who had tried their luck overseas in 1996
despite having a job already started and for which then moved blogs and associations
came the freedom and the return from her mother and brother in Tuscany
reset of the true dream is now to be here in Italy
Charles, how did you resist seven and a half
sconticino because some of you have done as I understand
sleep each night in jail an innocent man?
the thing that made me stand at the same time was also my worst nightmare
the determination to prove my innocence
I did resist because it gave me the ability to concentrate on something important
obviously with the help of my family and people who loved me
at the same time has become an obsession
became something I had in front of me every day every second of my life
these fake certificates fake these photos
propositoc'è to a small error in the service
the photo was not submitted one week after
The picture was presented three years after
the photo shows that these alleged beatings
is that picture of the police
three years later?
the photos you've seen
the photos you've seen
the process
was presented at trial in 2005, ie three years after the complaint
in addition the photo has been repudiated by the detectives during the proceedings of the case
in practice the police detectives have said we have not seen any photos
Ms. White testified during the trial that she had offered these photos to the police who have refused
she was asked to keep her
safe-keeping to protect
to protect
what you normally do with all the procedural evidence
Who was talking about earlier is Professor Vincenzo Maria Mastronardi, who wrote a book on this story
but in fact goes beyond the professional
why is she in this case is appossionato the human story of Carlo Parlanti
I involve the soon well on this
I wanted a little 'to continue this story
in these American prisons every day what you have to live?
The biggest problem I think that American prisons and violence
I have no direct experience of Italian prisons
I served 11 months in a German prison
in Germany
Dusseldorf can compare with that experience
always for the same case in order to be clear
for the same definite case
pending extradition
extradition
and I can assure you that there
there is no way to describe the violence of U.S. prisons
in eleven months in a German prison, maybe I've seen three episodes of violence
violence in the prison of Avenal was daily
three episodes of violence the night before the live newscast
the police in American prisons are walking around with military belts
sticks with metal snap two cans of pepper spray and a canister of explosive gas
as in war?
exactly as in war
Charles you have experienced violence? I can ask?
I was attacked three times unfortunately
To tell the truth but not in the prison of Avenal in county jail
and then in the distribution center where it is hosted for a few months waiting for someone to decide the danger and checks the final prison
were in contact with Italy?
moreover, because you were in the united states of america
so even your friends your family all the people who love you they wanted you could stay in touch with you?
you could have a bit of warmth in that situation so violent an innocent man in prison for so many years?
one of the few profitable of U.S. prisons is the fact that there is continuous access to telephones
within the wards
We were housed in a kind of big storage concrete
How many were in each cell comrade?
in our warehouse we were about
about 390 people at the worst time
390 people all together
400 people
all convicted of very serious crimes
in particular where I was it was a special yard
of a section of an arm defined needs for sensory
In practice, 80% of them were accused of sexual offenses
the other 20% a gang accused of betraying
Therefore in practice collaborators of justice
ambientino that eh
sexual offense you were charged and convicted for the same offense
Professor Mastronardi he could
Carl could negotiate?
did not want him to do because he has not wanted to have this spot to be a sin to admit that you did not
moved to the Foreign Ministry has served virtually no purpose whatever
been virtually ignored in the sense they are the actions of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs
because he has not bargained?
and especially now that what
because we said
What can you do now?
therefore, first of all
can still get justice in any way?
This has been the subject of several meetings at the foreign ministry in my role as consultant to Parlanti and single coordinator of the investigation itself
just because we say precisely complimenting the MFA
with the office of Italians abroad in the Ministry of Foreign
we realized that three could be on the streets
But the first and it was absolutely inpraticabile and would return
Charles did not want Parlanti absolutely no desire
because the return is necessary that we accept the sentence and sign a commitment to
that is, if he had also admitted they have done nothing
he would admit guilt would return to Italy
after the fact, however, after Baraldini But there is to comment on this
then after there was from that moment on, no return
then there's this other thing
second second second chance
I am responding to your questions because there are three roads
the second road could have been that habeas corpus
a peculiar kind of appeal only
because in America if I'm not mistaken there is only one degree of judgment
then there are no special cases? here is not like that there are three levels of courts
them there is only one
only one
habeas corpus, however, would require close examination for two years of all those acts conceivable
which also acts had already been previously excluded the possibility of close examination
and so it was a lost cause
lost
third possibility is that now and we beat
is indeed with the fake certificates
because with my collaborators with the association that defends precisely Parlanti
we found we found compliant certificates
will be the same the same clinical doctor doctors who will tell us then after
will be the same the same clinical doctor doctors who will tell us then after
and very carefully whether those signatures were false and therefore do not recognize the certificate or not
we are very technical in anyway he wants justice
we are very technical in anyway he wants justice
Talking to Charles was taken off a big piece of their lives
Who knows how many dreams you had that you wanted to create disruptions are now seven and a half years
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Charles and you?
one
not even want to hear Charles the first thing he did as a free
I am connected to a social network and I tried to thank all my supporters and people who really helped me out by
There is a support group and I have been slingshots
to say thanks
to say thank you
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Talking became a laugh
course I did laughter
sometimes justify attitudes of criminals simply saying it's my job
I had to do
I'm a cop is a magistrate
and ethics where we want to?
you are a man even before
is certainly
the prosecutor who pursued me closed his speech by saying something like
Mr. Parlanti fancies himself a don giovanni
he likes to go out and meet women
he likes to enchant
this is Mr. Parlanti
a person who makes a plea of this kind knows that the game is playing
and is not respecting the ethics that should meet
absolutely
is not an agent
[End of the part related to Parlanti]